Every positive thing helps! Obviously, when we look at transfer rates with PGS tested embryos, we are not including all the women who didnt have anything to transfer. I know how devastating loss can be but theres always, always hope. How did your pregnancy turn out? PGS Normal FET Results in Chemical Pregnancy *with* autoimmune protocol, Need some Love!!! Chemical pregnancy facts. Good luck and dont give up on hope yet! Tiegs (2020) in their multicenter prospective study transferred 414 blastocysts that were only tested using PGT-A after the pregnancy outcome.So no one knew what was being transferred. (I was taking baby aspirin and Lovenox 2x/day for blood clotting disorders as well as Prednisone 30 mg /day and Intralipid transfusions weekly for elevated NK cells). We have one (and only one) 4bb PGS normal embryo. HCG was 24 Friday and yesterday went down to 16. PGS (PGT-A) success rates - PGS Testing (PGT-A) - Remembryo Not exactly! Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). I just don't know what to do. Will be put on lovenox this round as well. Preliminary studies examine the rebiopsy and transfer of chaotic embryos by PGT-A. Both Chemical pregnancies my lining was under 7. After I had my 3rd, my doctor and the IVF nurses all pushed for an ERA saying that even though Ive had prior success, that may have just been luck and my optimal window might be different than what I was doing. While those are great odds, sometimes the FET fails. Mosaics are often transferred after euploid embryos have been exhausted, although there is evidence that low level mosaic transfers are comparable to euploid transfers (see here for a review). Capalbo et al. There was also no difference with Day 7, although the sample size was very small. IVF is a numbers game. I had a chemical pregnancy last November after a fresh transfer. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. But I dont think we can compare those two sets of numbers to really tell if PGS is increasing our success rates per age group. I'm 37 years old, and I just had a chemical pregnancy with a PGS-tested embryo. I also am interested in doing an endo scratch beforehand and adding Viagra if the shots and scratch aren't doing the job. Took THREE rounds of antibiotics for mine to clear. Starting in the late 1990s, doctors testing fertilized eggs classified them as normal or abnormal, then added the classification "mosaic" in 2015. For more up-to-date information on this topic check out my other posts that are tagged withPGS (PGT-A) success rates. Do embryo biopsies for PGT-A match the rest of the embryo? My first FET was a day 6 5AA euploid embryo. I refused to go into another FET without doing some test or adjusting 1 variable, otherwise it was just repeating the same mistakes in my mind. I got my period or should I say we officially begun to miscarry on Saturday so I did call them with our Day 1. Its good you will request the endomitritis biopsy. We have not done a hysteroscopy but will ask my dr if we can do one to check and at least rule that out. I had a chemical with a PGS embryo in October. It worked and now Im 24 weeks pregnant with twins! Good luck and feel free to PM me. A 2019 multicenter and international RCT (the STAR trial) compared euploid and untested embryo transfers. Your doctor sounds JUST like mine did before I switchedpushing surrogacy and unwilling to try anything differently. I took the year off to just work on myself and be in a better mental state. Did your doctor have your SO go through the rounds of antibiotics as well? Design: Case-control study. You can check out my summary of the study here. Learn more about, Learn About What to Expect's Pregnancy & Baby App. About 7 months later I transferred a day 7. Mosaics are embryos that have a mix of euploid and aneuploid cells. Now I wonder if that could have been the culprit. 5AB euploid embryo. I might actually look into that. This was my only PGS normal embryo so I have to re-do that as well.. Dear RLM11, so sorry for your losses, I know how devastating it is! Im glad you took time for your mental health. Any advice is greatly appreciated. It was a chemical pregnancy. Mosaic embryos can be either low- or high . Then a frozen cycle BFN. Youre right! PGS testing done this round 8 high quality normal embryos. Did you ever go through with your day 7 FET? - continued the same above protocol with the only change was that once I got my first positive beta (63) they had me increase the progesterone suppository to three times a day. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. Second, PGS speeds up the time to pregnancy. Good luck. I'm curious if this might have something to do with it. We are so happy about that, we just want this one to be the one. I actually didnt have embryos to bring with me when we switched. Nov 2, 2016 8:12 AM. Very frustrating to have an inconclusive. While a PGS normal embryo means the chromosomes are normal, there is more to a baby than just chromosomes and sometimes it just doesnt work. Reply Share React AMB425 Sep 2, 2016 11:01 AM Definitely heartbroken but trying to look forward. wow, Im so glad you were able to get a second opinion. I know I needed it after my failed FET and I really didnt have it. So the advantage with PGT-A may be in determining which embryos are completely unfit for transfer, at least based on this study. I was wondering what protocol were you on for your second transfer? Ill come back and edit this post with the link. We were eager to get going and my lining thickness/bloodwork looked good, so our doctor had allowed us to transfer one of our PGS embryos from Round 1 after our Round 2 retrieval. great to know! My husband and I started trying to get pregnant about a year ago (we're both 35). A pregnancy that doesn't even make it to the 6 week scan where they can usually see the fetus on an ultrasound. frustration and tears were worth it. 12 43 comments Best Add a Comment gundacurry 2 yr. ago https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282 (17)31371-7/fulltext lennylincs 2 yr. ago However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. How does anyone not go completely crazy through this whole process???? Check out mycomplete guide to embryo grading and success ratesto learn more about embryo development, grading and success rates. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. Objective: To determine whether undetected aneuploidy contributes to pregnancy loss after transfer of euploid embryos that have undergone array comparative genomic hybridization (aCGH). I will ask my dr about this. Im trying not to fixate on my last embryo being a day 7. Existing data show that the live birth rate is between 60-80% when a single frozen embryo is transferred in a second cycle. Your clinic may have a better idea! I wanted to reach out and see if you know a way to find a surrogate on your own, rather than going thru an agency. For your second question, Ill be doing an Embryo News this week that explains a study that compares non-PGS vs PGS tested embryos. 1) Has anyone else had the immune suppressing protocol NOT work, and then gone on to have it work? Has anyone experienced a failure or chemical pregnancy when transferring a PGS normal embryo *AND* being on an autoimmune protocol? It took me 3 fresh + 3 frozen but I finally did get my baby. Im so sorry to hear about your losses but so happy with your current miracle. The results come back as euploid (meaning theres 46 chromosomes), aneuploid (meaning theres a number of chromosomes besides 46) or mosaic (meaning theres a mix of euploid and aneuploid cells). Ive seen conflicting studies with some (irani 2017) saying poor quality euploid has just 25% LBR but some more recent studies (2021) that suggest that morphology matters more under 30 (which Im not Im 42 but was 37/8 at retrieval). RPL and endomitritis biopsy isnt a new thing, and its the same procedure as an ERA (which I also highly recommend). Normal Embryo Success Rate: RMA Research Study , ERA was a game changer for me! ALL THREE DID!!! I have however done Intralipid Infusions and taken Neupogen beginning a week before transfer for Autoimmune protocol (although Ive never actually been tested for Autoimmune disorder). Do the birth success rates of pgs tested embryos include both those that get a positive pregnancy test and those that dont? I am so so sorry. I had a chemical pregnancy with my first FET. (The embryo split!) Thank you! We did do some things differently, however my RE did these things more to appease me because he knew how frustrated I was than because he thought they were medically necessary. (2016)found nostatistically significantdifference inongoing pregnanciesbetween Day 5 and 6 euploids (78.6% vs 67.4%), but this was reduced by Day 7 (43.8%). However, another doctor (2nd opinion) claimed that Receptiva would only be conducted for implantation failure and for those who had never seen positive pregnancy tests. My previous cycle where I started the prep medications (minivelle and ganirelix) was shorter (23 days) than my typical cycle (25-28) days. PGT-A miscarriage rates (euploid, mosaic, and aneuploid transfers) But I do have a friend who had 1 embryo shipped from Utah to California for an FET and it was a different clinic that handled the FET. , thats definitely worth looking into as well! Well start with euploids, then mosaics, and end with fully aneuploid embryos. Best of luck to you!! We have one day 7/Euploid Blast 5BB remaining on ice. In the past PGS was seen as the holy grail - if the chromosomes are normal we should have implantation and a normal pregnancy. My questions is only 28% of our blastocysts passed pgs testing which is quite low from what is predicted for those under 35. All that to say, it's likely that there actually was something wrong with that embryo - but it's worthwhile to leave no stone unturned before trying again. About 7 months later I transferred a day 7. . I completely understand struggling about whether to do the 3rd retrieval, it is a lot to go through all over again. I hope this helps. Im so confused as my RE says that morphology doesnt matter if theyre euploid. Hi, i didnt have chemicals, I had bfn for my first two transfers. With the retrieval statistics, we can include all cycles (like the ones that ended with no blasts to transfer or only abnormal embryos that werent transferred) and that lowers the success rates quite a bit. Multiple chemical pregnancies from embryos that had been PGS tested The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Generally, Day 5 embryos perform better than Day 7 embryos. I just officially confirmed another Chemical pregnancy for me. MENTS my FET following that one was successful and I am now 28 weeks pregnant END MENTS .This whole IVF journey takes so much out of you and I truly feel your pain but please keep trying. Praying you did and thank you for the advice! Segmental aneuploids: the main source for PGT-A false positives? what were the extra things you did besides Lovenox/prednisone, biopsy and ERA? More high quality studies need to be performed to really see the answer to this question. Any experiences with Day 6 blastocyst - Fertility Network UK Ive done 4 transfers now with PGS tested embryos - the first failed and the last 3 resulted in chemical pregnancies. We timed everything to my cycle. Saw a heartbeat at 6 and 8 weeks then nothing at week 10. I paid a fortune for those sessions (I dont have insurance). If you want to read more about about success rates for untested embryos, go to my embryo grading and success rates post. For more background info, check out my post onPGS Testing. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. Advancing age of the female partner increases the chance that the embryo will be abnormal. Sometimes something as small as a polyp that can be removed, can cause implantation to fail. If I had transferred two without PGS, there would have been a significant chance that both would have been abnormal. Aww happy your second round worked! Endomitritis is basically an inflammation in the uterus that makes it inhospitable for an embryo to implant or grow. FAILED FIRST FET (Chemical Pregnancy). I have a Day 7/PGS Euploid He suggested an endometrial biopsy instead. Best of luck! I am not naive I know bad things can happen. How Does PGS Testing Work? - Success Rate & Risks - Coastal Fertility A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. What are the differences between the two tests? Can any further conclusion be made based on number of normal pgs results ? Im so sorry youre going through that. 2018). Im willing to try anything :) thanks for sharing! (The embryo split!)
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