reeve whitson cia agent

CIA was all over the first famous killer, Manson, like flies on shit. He didn't even want to leave prison.Imo, He racked up far more than enough of these activities to get sent backIn your opinion. Then Ashley explores mystery man Reeve Whitson and his connection to the case, before taking a closer look at the operations conducted by the CIA and FBI in the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas during the 1960s. After several years of this, they administered the coup de grace by immortalizing . He absolutely did not. After reading Chaos, I find Wilson to be a very compelling figure in the Manson case. None of them saw the scene in the daylight and none of them saw the place again after they'd left Cielo. According to Sanders, p. 197, Hurst delivered the bicycle between 6:30 and 7:00. It's a similar story regarding where the LaBiancas lived, what with all the rumours and theories about Leno moaning about the noise from Harold True's house or chewing out Charlie ~ when a bit of checking will reveal that it never happened. The first car he asked about was Abigail's. Reeve Whitson was a major player in the Laurel Canyon scene. Other than Gregg Jacobson and Stephanie Schram's sister, virtually no one outside the Family {or close contacts like Juan Flynn} has a pre~August '69 concept of HS. Scares the shit out of me to think of it. I wouldn't believe a word that came out of his mouth. What's very interesting to me is why was Charlie, a career criminal ON PAROLE, repeatedly released when arrested with drugs, prostituting young girls, possession of stolen property, speeding and leaving the state. He got a call at 7 a.m. on Aug. 9, 1969 from an acquaintance named Reeve Whitson, whom Hatami described as a "mystery man." O'Neill found this characterization was universal among Whitson's. Multiple people told O'Neill that Whitson was an intelligence agent infiltrating Manson's group as well as the entire Laurel Canyon milieu. "Sorry Starviego, this all sounds like nonsense to me. LAPD were looking for Hatami at the request of Bugliosi because Bugliosi wanted to know if what Rudi Altobelli had told him about Manson turning up at his pad and having been sent there by the people at the main house {and 4 of the 5 Cielo victims were at the house that day} could be corroborated; Bugliosi obviously couldn't get corroboration from Sharon, Jay, Gibbie and Wojiciech and Altobelli had mentioned that he thought Hatami was there that day.Whitson went to Bugliosi's office with Hatami as a friend of Hatami. I'm pretty sure the last time Doris was in the house was for the watching of the moon landing but I do remember her saying it was there though I highly doubt it was upside down like the pics from Aug 9 show, I can't imagine that would be too cool with Col Paul lol, Just as a general statement regarding the killers you have to take into account that BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION they took HUNDREDS of trips on hallucinogenic drugs in addition to smoking marijuana daily, these people are bound to forget various things that most look at as things that are mere footnotes such as what piece of furniture was where, who said what first, where the flag was, what time it was, etc, etc. So you're right.What's very interesting to me is why was Charlie, a career criminal ON PAROLE, repeatedly released when arrested with drugs, prostituting young girls, possession of stolen property, speeding and leaving the stateCan you give details of one occasion where he was arrested in actual possession of drugs, actually prostituting young girls, actually in possession of stolen stuff and speeding ? So having a CIA undercover agent learn more about the habits of drug dealers in order to pin the blame on them would be in keeping with the cover-up strategy of setting up the innocent (albeit unsavory) in order to allow the real murderers to go free. According to Bugliosi, p. 85, the time was between 7:30 and 8:00. Good to see you!! hb`````fc`e`-bb@ ! 00 10(tl According to the manuscript, Helder told Whitson to cozy up to anyone who knew Frykowskis suppliers, especially those in Mama Casss circleDoesn't this contradict your belief though ? He saw Reeve later that night.Since Reeve Whitson was at the house the night before the murders, when was he there? In fact, did he even mention the Family ? He also confirmed a detail from Ed Sanders' "The Family" that Melcher had let him borrow his Jaguar for the long drive to UkiahThis might be high tension wire drama.were it not for the fact that this has been public record since 1971. My desire is to share info about Whitson and my friend's father to discover the alias her father was using back then. His daughter is a Bluebird survivor and her memories are returning in fractured pieces. Retweets. Melcher moved out in January '69 and the day after he moved out, Moorehouse was sent to prison for selling acid ~ he'd been found guilty on Dec 17th '68.Vera: Where'd ya learn that, Grim? Can't shake old ways, he used to say" comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment CowOwn Additional comment actions Thank you, Bunkhouse. Even Sharon Tate's father, Paul Tate, was a former Colonel in Military Intelligence and conducted his own investigation. I can honestly say, I'm very glad I never found out.And as Manson being a musician & singer? I am in Chapter 6, when Reeve Whitson is just being introduced as the cryptic CIA agent "He used his thumbnail to tear the top-right-hand corner of every piece of paper he handled, to mark it. It had been there ever since Voityck and Gibby (Abigail Folger) moved in. The instance of the book saying that Dean Moorehouse lived at Cielo is unforgivable because it is errantly misleading, pure and simple. "pg203John Irvin, British film director: "Whitson had very good connections with the Los Angeles Sheriff's Office. He dumped bodies in Portland and there are a bunch of missing prostitutes in that time frame in Portland as well. starviego saidI am now thinking those items were planted at the scene to subtly demonize the victims and to enable police to go off on their sham 'drug burn' diversion.I agree. Evelle Younger worked with CIA agents Manny Pena and Enrique Hernandez on the RFK assassination case just a year prior to the Tate murders. How did O'Neill get the transcript to the book, I heard Debra had it? Who is this O'Neill guy? Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. She knew that the others were making fun of the flag, of the establishment. He told me he was there after the murders, but before the police got there. I remember reading that Moorehouse molested his daughtersIf there's one thing I've come to realize in regard to TLB and other matters of such complexity that have attracted much thought, controversy, speculation and revision, it's that the phrase "I read somewhere" or "I remember reading/seeing somewhere" is one that is fraught with pitfalls because it's almost used as a barometer of the truth of the matter whereas in actuality, it could mean anything, something or nothing at all. His mother was a dancer and his father was a world-renowned acrobat. Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties; Prologue (Video) Epilogue; Chapter 12 - Where Does It All Go? Chapters are as followed: Prologue The Crime of the Century An Aura of Danger The Golden Penetrators The Holes in Helter Skelter Amnesia at the L.A. County Sheriff's Office Who Was Reeve Whitson? If I had, they probably would have run to a lot more posts than the many that certain of the threads did ! Take a person (Krenwinkel) with an IQ just barely in the 3 digits to begin with and add in the hallucinogens, pot and babblings of a man she's in love with (Manson) and you've got a woman operating on a bowl of porridge for brains, katie8753 said "I've gotta say, I agree with Mon on this one. This is a bit off topic. Who is he again ? They had dinner at the restaurant and left about 9:45. Oh Mario I wasn't even talking about you! "Not every detail in "Helter Skelter" is correct. Maybe he was there during Sharon's lunch with friends but nobody saw him because he moved too fast. The morning after the murders, his father realized his son had not been home. The licensing process for model cars began in 1966 with a Scotsman by the name of Reeve Whitson, the first to establish a company that served as an agent to the racing car manufacturers to license their copyrighted designs to model car makers. I'm robust. Did he mention Tex ? They might have even overcome such dimunitive females as Susan and Katie. We don't the degree of his involvement or guilt. And whenever this 'someone' is challenged to back up whatever cryptic utterances they gush forth, they just utter more of the same and bring in other cases not remotely connected.Yeah, I'm sceptical !So, does my Twitter inter-action with George Christie mean nothing to you? its being called 'Havana Syndrome' and its Believed it was caused by secret sonic weaponry now being called out in a new investigation. officials, KKK, Satanists, Dixie Mafia, Project Bluebird, and MKULTRA, Lookout Mt. For some it was possibly a fascinating exchange because as is your wont, you tend to be a great promoter of intrigue and mystery and you have a way of seeming like you have some dynamite for demonstration..but it never explodes. He was a close friend of Sharon and Jay, and thus the presence of the other hippies at the front door would not have aroused suspicion. Mr. O'Neil proposes that Charlie may have been used as a pawn to catch bigger fish, this theory alone really makes this story much bigger. None of us would have even known the registrations were mixed up. katie8753 said"I've still never heard of Reeve Whitson.Who was Reeve Whitson? No way this guy was just there to watch. . His lead investigator was a man (allegedly) named Reeve Whitson, who the CIA said they could neither confirm nor deny he ever worked for them. When he said it, it seemed credible. Little Paul ?If I come across as harsh, I don't mean to. He didn't apply for it. A lot of people who were involved in this event are dead now, some won't talk and others have spoken of what they know. Delivering arms, drugs, people, children were his usual business. He was driving a VW van. Her story has changed more than once. Ask yourself what it logically means to have "witnesses that vouch for Whitson's presence in the scene." ONeill interviewed Hatami who said that Bugliosi knew Reeve very well.Hatami also told ONeill that he first heard about the murders from Reeve. "pg190Neil Cummings, lawyer friend of Whitson: "when it came to Manson, he "was closer to it than anybody..""He was actively involved with some sort of investigation when it happened. William Weston said Hatami mentioned the name Reeve Whitson four times in his testimony at the Manson trialNo he did not. If the man had any relationship with the US government, he'd have had health coverage. Being arrested is not an offence let alone proof of guilt, let alone a conviction. I won't accept something just because someone says it. Krenny later testified that she was sure the American Flag on the sofa wasn't there during the murders.And the scene was littered with marijuana and cocaine, even though no residues of those drugs were found in the body fluids of the dead.I am now thinking those items were planted at the scene to subtly demonize the victims and to enable police to go off on their sham 'drug burn' diversion. Mon Durphy said regarding the killers you have to take into account that BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION they took 100s of trips on hallucinogenic drugs in addition to smoking marijuana daily, these people are bound to forget various things that most look at as things that are mere footnotes such as what piece of furniture was where, who said what first, where the flag was, what time it was, etc, etcThat would apply, even if they hadn't taken loads of drugs over a 4~5 year period. I also was conscious of not rehashing and repeating myself, especially when many of the issues that were brought up, I'd commented on endlessly over the past 4 years. He was a marginally employed and only marginally sane police groupie. It might have been more accurate to say that Hatami said the name once and Bugliosi said it three times, but I don't see how O'Neill could have put that in his text without appearing overly pedantic. Now, you'll know from past exchanges that I don't take what you have to say with any seriousness, not because I'm disinterested in what you say, but because you continually dangle but don't deliver. I read Chaos, but came to a very different conclusion. I am also considered an information hoarder. Whenever I went over to Sharon's and I'd see the flag there, I'd tell her it wasn't right. He told and then showed where a lot of missing women were. Seems like his job was to insinuate himself into every possible source of information. That's all. ), Whitsons wife (not exactly an objective witness), Linda Ruby a cousin of Whitsons (again, not objective), 2 detectives working on the TLB case who are desperate to find ANY motive in a case that appears to have none EXCEPT drugs and robbery, and a British film director claiming Whitson had "very good connections with LASO" along with thousands of other people in LA, If the FBI or CIA allowed the murders of 5 adults and one full term unborn baby to happen while supposedly surveilling the scene there would be an uprising in this country the likes of which haven't been seen since the Civil War. So that got my train of thought going and I looked into it. "Put yourself in my position. I can imagine him being scared shitless, looking out of a window, realizing something VERY bad was going down, and just shutting down. He GAVE his daughter to Manson. I don't know if it's a typo or just laziness. In my research into a close friend's father (Elwood "Red" Franklin Williams) that was active in the Laurel Canyon activities back then, I found much of Red's info matched the info on Whitson. Or was he himself a willing pawn in a greater scheme he wasn't aware of?The CIA are not nice guys. Mon Durphy said"Winifred testified that the flag was on the couch THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE MURDERS AND THE DAY OF"Where did she say that? This was essential because Sharon and Jay might have put up quite a fight with their martial arts skills acquired from training by the master Bruce Lee. He was never convicted of anything that was deemed to be serious enough to have him put back in the years '67~'69. But his daughters ? He probably didn't mention his Mum or his son but it doesn't mean they weren't in his mind. When Manson and one of his CIA handlers, Reeve Whitson, rearranged the Tate murders crime scene before anyone else got there, they were literally setting the stage for the upcoming theatrical production. Of the 9 people you mention, one of them says Whitson was there. ONeal's lousy, undocumented conspiracy book? I had high hopes when I read that O'Neil had spent twenty years researching the Manson murders, but the book reads like a confession of failure. C'mon Grim, you know better.And for my legal reasons and MORE, I comment & blog a certain way.So, with that said, I hope you & your family are doing well Grim.And yes, you have defended me in the past(Thank you).Mario George Nitrini 111----The OJ Simpson Case.

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