I dont think Monsanto will own these forever - You have no way of knowing what Monsanto will do. Pupilla - I'm sorry to tell you this, but I don't find an explanation in your post at all. It is sort of intended as an "open source", freely distributed GMO introduction going on in Florida right now. [4], Ferry began to operate facilities outside Detroit. Which seed companies are owned by Monsanto? Prior to his work, tomatoes were considered ornamental rather than edible! If you have some complaint about something in my post, then clearly state what that is. Better to leave the door open! McKenzie is Canada's #1 seed packet company. But it would seem to me that, while the conclusions about what happened in India may have been controversial, something definitely negative happened in India as a result of Monsanto introducing GMO seed. Citrus Browning disease to me is not a philosophical worry, it is an economic, cultural, and very real problem today that may force me to make a decision on a particular instance of a particular GMO. Look at how they closed down the Seeds of Change organic farm after they bought it. My main objection to the combination of "GMO AND Monsanto" debate as you have presented is two-fold. There is no question I want a conventionally bred product by a smaller company if there is a real choice, because it keeps conventional breeding strong and competitive and goes against the trends of consolidation which large companies represent. So you claim there is no reason to avoid any seed company. I think you ought to be looking at yourself here as well, and accept your share of the responsibility for the way in which you have extended this conversation and turned most of the discussion into a discussion of me. If you want to avoid using GMO seeds, here is a list of seed companies owned by Monsanto. Is Ferry Morse Seeds owned by Monsanto? trailer <<3F3A45F4763244699204DF9EADBED2DB>]/Prev 598269/XRefStm 1737>> startxref 0 %%EOF 576 0 obj <>stream Bottom Line to me is why give Monsanto more power? Ferry & Co.[2], The business grew steadily and, in 1879, was incorporated under the name D.M. Well wishes to you too. For instance, the Irish potato famine (which actually effected almost the entire continent of Europe) and the more recent (1970s) famine caused by almost total annihilation of the wheat crop in the USSR. Second, you dont have any way of knowing, why Monsanto is buying up so many seed companies. If you want to find out who owns a company, go to the website of the attorney general of the state where the company is located. Were proud to carry on the legacy of Dr. Thomsons invention with a suite of natural plant nutrients including Organic granular plant food and Organic fish emulsion. 2. If others want to do this I am sympathetic but have mixed feelings about the effect of that. I respect everyone's beliefs which include not giving them false and misleading info because it is morally my belief. [14][15], In 2021, Central Garden & Pet acquired Green Garden Products and its brand names Ferry-Morse, American Seed, Livingston Seed, McKenzie, NK Lawn & Garden, Jiffy, SUPERthrive, Dyna-Gro and Seeds of Change.[16]. Is Garden of Life owned by Monsanto? I choose to evaluate products on a case by case basis rather than be preached to by articles (such as the info one that started this thread) or lobbies (such as those sponsored by lawyers on both sides, or lobbies). Certainly enough to raise concern for anyone willing to consider it and have a starting point to better understand it.". Wouldn't it appear they are trying to have a monopoly on seeds? I'm sure I have done my share of that, too. We later expanded the catalog to include peppers and eggplant since they are in the same plant family as tomatoes. That can only be because you have failed to grasp what my concerns are and what they mean. Add to Cart. Then I illustrated it by showing you that the Florida Citrus Greening disease is here right here and now. We take pride in helping families across the country enjoy gardening and the fresh foods and flowers the garden produces. I will address your issue about the reputed 250,000 suicides per year in India which you have taken on faith to be true, and not critically taken the time to fact-check. We are in the same boat, since it took me at least as much time as you to compose my replies for you or may I dare say maybe longer :-(, and your replies were not a walk through the park to read and I did visit and read every link you offered. The Ferry-Morse Seed Company is a supplier of seeds, and was at one time the largest such company in the world. There's plenty of it. I do not doubt that your intentions are to find accurate, truthful, and complete information but intentions and execution are two different things. I always support local agriculture! Pupilla - Im surprised, that you have taken offense at my last post. There is only room for one other comment before this post becomes to long for me. Here is a quote of what I said --, You seem to still want to believe that GMO seed may not be such a bad thing. Really? Monsanto isn't the only company that makes GMO cropswhy does everyne get worked up over Monsanto, and no one talks about Syngenta? And I prefer US grown produce always. I have answered your post this time by copying the body of it and putting yours in italics in its entirety so I would not miss anyting and responded to each and every point. If home gardening seed is a small portion of the seed they sell, then targeting commercial seed sales seems to be the way to go. Nature has a non-aligned editorial board and attempts to be on the cutting edge of gold-standard research in the public's interest. What can I personally do about it? Only if you are trying to convince them of something. Compare $ 1 99 (1) Model# 0069. First, you have fused two subjects together based on the fact that one uses the technology. Two people posted about two seed companies on the list. That is the best way to find out who owns a company. 3. -- if that is correct, than what you are saying is that you do choose GMO. Anyone have any information about that? As for the people who rely on the government and regulatory agencies to protect them, I'd say that putting all your faith in the government for ANYTHING is living in a fools paradise. Grow your. A movie (or someone else) comes up with some terrible conspiracy theory sort of plot. How about the film it links to, called Bitter Seeds which is a documentary about the impact of genetically modified cotton on Indias farmers and the suicide rate of over a quarter million Bt Cotton farmers each year due to financial stress resulting from massive crop failure and the price of Monsantos Bt seeds? I am not concerned about losing varieties of seeds as you are. That's about it. Ive made a few points that represent my own point of view and you skip right over them in favor of suffocating the conversation with more of your own opinions and explanations and analysis. Ferry-Morse is one of the oldest operating seed companies in the United States, having been in continuous operation since 1856! Since a winter sowing forum is a place where people use seeds, I think the topic is entirely on point. No. "Still any article or post or thread that criticizes GMO is a good thing to me, because it gets the word out. Here is the reference from the British publication Nature. I know you won't like all my replies but I don't want you to think I am ignoring anything. McKenzie Seeds is a seed packaging company founded in Brandon, Manitoba in 1896. No company sells GMO seeds to home gardeners. I dont see why gardeners cant support small companies who are not trying to compete with high tech seed companies. I just wish the world could be as calm about it as you and I. I would wonder that they were going to tamper with them. Consumers have a lot of power that they are not using to support good companies and stop supporting bad companies. A leader and innovator in the gardening industry since 1896, McKenzie Seeds offers unsurpassed quality and deep commitment to the customer. Ferry-Morse has been trusted by gardeners since 1856. Here is the original post which drew my attention and the topic I was staying on as much as possible: "If you want to avoid using GMO seeds, here is a list of seed companies owned by Monsanto. That is because so much mistrust that has been sown by both sides. I had already said the same thing in an earlier post, but did not use the word, misquoted and you had no problem with that. I will not throw my favorite large red hybrid tomato, developed before 1970, under the bus just because Monsanto bought it. What does my belief have to do with it? Pupilla - Not following you. I did a bit of research, I don't believe that Ferry Morse/ Jiffy/ American Seed is owned by Monsanto. I framed it in an appeal to dire consequences? Burpee and Petoseed together dominated vegetable breeding for the home garden consumer during the 60s. Its not easy to explain it completely, but Ill give it a try. You seem to still want to believe that GMO seed may not be such a bad thing. And where does it refer to your belief in anything I said? Multiple smaller, non high tech companies that are manageable by individuals and an asset to their communities. But I am not making a blanket statement. No you dont see Monsanto rescuing us but yet, you are hoping that the GMO potential solution will. National Geographic Article on GMOs and Florida Orange Juice, reference from the British publication Nature, the pioneering 1973 peer-reviewed paper of CFCs causing the breakdown of ozone was published, https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/sites/default/files/fs_1802_1406-monsantoseedsupd_web.pdf, using taj mahal quartzite for kitchen counter. I would like to see the world get away from this kind of development. I have a better idea. I only insist on using good references and doing a little fact checking. I looked and this is the one Mother Earth News article that I was thinking of in particular. I can hear that you are torn, but I am not having that problem at all. Again, I gave you alternate suggestions of how to hit Monsanto's bottom line so much harder, that included not purchasing Round-Up, not purchasing Miracle Gro products, and not purchasing the commercial Zima tomato product, which I thought would make you happy since it is conventional Monsanto seeds and the growers conned Monsanto into giving them an exclusive, which prevents all home gardeners from getting this conventional seed, even though it is super delish and was developed conventional before Monsanto bought them out. It is a disease where I will be forced to make a decision if the GM technology is the solution that will save the $10 billion Florida Citrus industry. For example they were where the pioneering 1973 peer-reviewed paper of CFCs causing the breakdown of ozone was published (link). 0000010754 00000 n One thing is for sure. It's rhetorical. More selfish motives that ignore what is good for mankind or the natural world, in general. Sunflower Fun Sunny Hybrid Mix Seed. I quote your response to them: "Yes, I understand that people exaggerate, often because they've had an emotional reaction to something that really disturbs them. If you have some opinion on GMO seeds, on Monsanto, or other companies producing GMO seeds, or the preservation of non GMO seeds, which are the topic of this thread, then perhaps you might share that in concise and direct language and leave out the rest. And what does my belief that GMOs are 1000% wrong, or any reason why I believe that, have anything at all to do with the sentence you are responding to? 0000016755 00000 n Now we meander into the never-ending GMO debate when and you give me about 7 points with links they you don't have time to review for quality, which have nothing to do with the boycott I objected to. This is all I need to know.>>> OWNED BY MONSANTO OR SEMINIS OR SELL SMALL PERCENTAGES OF SEEDS FROM THEM. Compare $ 1 98. We boycott all gene-altering companies." they also are connected with an heirloom gardening magazine. Others have posted that the link is on some random site that makes no effort to insure quality information and that anyone can post anything they want, no matter how misleading, inaccurate or incomplete it is. [1] Jiffy has moved production outside of Canada with over 70 people working at their location in Brandon. I've made an attempt to at least present some links to what should be reliable sources of information.
is ferry morse seeds owned by monsanto?